Biden’s Farewell Address

Submitted By: genedieken@yahoo.com – Click to email about this post
Just a response to Dixie Gainer’s abridged post of Ron Paul’s opinion piece on the authorization to use US weapons and technology to strike targets proximate to the Russian border (within 250 miles or so). Now we are also seeing some American air support for rebels trying to overthrow the Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria.
First let me acknowledge that Ms Gainer has many times demonstrated her fealty to what one might call the traditional Republican Party, the party that would be familiar to those in their mid-30s and older. I never supported that GOP, but it did have some reassuring qualities. I’ll simply assert here that that party no longer exists and has been replaced by something far darker.
Now about the Pauls. Both former Congressman Ron and current Senator Rand are proponents of the so-called Libertarian movement, an incomplete philosophy that strove for maximum liberty, minimum government, and no responsibility being placed on the wealthy/powerful who benefit maximally from the society created by every citizen (the commonweal). Libertarianism is now not much liked across the political spectrum except for the Silicon Valley/tech-bro community such as Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance, Larry Ellison, etc. who have rebranded it as “techno-utopianism.”
More important for this conversation, the Pauls are known to be emphatic supporters of (if not agents for) Russia. The quiet part has been said out loud, many time over the years. This has been a very noticeable trend in the GOP for years (google: Maria Butina) and now shapes Donald Trump’s policy toward Russia (google: Helsinki Summit). Thus I won’t ascribe much trustworthiness to anything either Paul says. And I’ll also assert here that the above-mentioned tech-bros have more connection with Russia than we should be comfortable with (google: Musk calls Putin regularly).
Biden’s recent authorization to use US weapons across the Ukraine border IS troubling. But the US and NATO have resisted this for three years as the Russians carried on an aerial war of obliteration largely against civilian targets in Ukraine. Russia and Syria worked this same game plan in Syria as Assad obliterated nearly the entire city of Aleppo over the years. Same game plan in Grozny, Chechnya. Where do we draw lines? It’s pretty clear where the once and future President and his captured GOP will draw them.
Gene
Please note that Dixie Gainer is NOT your friendly Manzanita wine merchant.

Glad to see someone confront Dixie

Submitted By: thedicedwitch@gmail.com – Click to email about this post
Makes me so happy to see *someone* finally confront Dixie about her conspiracy theory and misinformation spreading she’s doing. So many people watching Fox and thinking it’s news. Literally classified as an entertainment company, not a news agency. It’s just so disappointing to see many of our neighbors and peers post in support of a man that wants to be a dictator and whose running mate thinks it’s absolutely ok to spread lies and misinformation if it means getting votes.

Anyway. More of us really should be countering and debating a lot of the straight up lies being spread here.

Response to Manzanita Water Fund

Submitted By: rkinor@gmail.com – Click to email about this post
Let’s assume that both the City Manager and Accounting Clerk both spend two hours each day of every week that they show up to the office for the entire year on nothing but Water Fund business. This is an unrealistic estimate but I will be generous to make sure that all those daily meetings with the Public Works Director are accounted for.

Based on the salaries of these two positions, the City Manager should be reimbursed approximately $33,000 and the Accounting Clerk $22,000 for their respective time in their administrative support roles of the Water Fund. That leaves about $144,000 this budget year for your toner, paper, share of City Hall electricity, Water Fund cost share for a new printer every 3-4 years etc. Please do some better research to show how your narrative describing overhead allocation aligns with the dollars being transferred out of the Water Fund for the support services being described.

Remember Mr John Kunkle, the retired City Manager the Council hired as an interim prior to Ms Aman? For almost a year Mr Kunkle led the City which of course included providing his administrative support to the Water Fund doing all those tasks that the author has identified. At the end of his service with the City, Mr Kunkle estimated that he spent approximately 10-15% of his time in this activity. So just 3 years ago based on the salary Mr Kunkle was receiving, the Water Fund would have been reimbursing the City Manager $8,400 – $12,600 for these services.

Remember when Mr Kunkle told the City Council that he wouldn’t be making the transfer of $113,675 from the Water Fund to the City Hall Expansion Fund that the Budget Committee recommended and Council wanted to make because there was no justification for it?

With the use of money from the Water Fund coming under greater scrutiny, more creative explanations seem to have been found to keep the money flowing into the General Fund. After all, those debt payments starting next year on the loan for the new City Hall have to be paid and the banks do not care which City Fund the money comes from.
Randy Kugler

CHUCK SO GRATEFUL TO YOU

Submitted By: cbbcalm@gmail.com – Click to email about this post
Reply to Tevis : Thank you yes many plans have a politic expression .
Dear Chuck and Barbara I have appreciated very much bbq. it has showed the pulse of the coast.
Yes to Diversity in our Learning discoveries Opening our Minds sharing those without fear of being shamed
Can we go from detesting to Caring
corinna & Daniel

Thank You Manzanita Transfer Station Employees!!!

Submitted By: babbles@nehalemtel.net – Click to email about this post
in response to last night’s post,

i find the employees at the Manzanita Transfer Station always friendly, cheerful and helpful.

i ditto paul’s appreciation.

om peace namaste

lucy brook
nehalem resident

Thank You Manzanita Transfer Station Employees!!!
Posted on July 15, 2024 by North Coast BBQ

Submitted By: badplaceforastump@gmail.com – Click to email about this post
I want to let the workers at the transfer station (I haven’t lived here long enough to call it CARTM) know how much I appreciate them. Though they’ve been hit by illness and weren’t open Thursday, they’ve been open the past two days, which I don’t think has been all that easy. In normal times I really enjoy going there, as they are a fine, fine bunch of folks, but to be able to do a few dump runs when they are not at full strength makes me appreciate them all the more!
Paul

yes to

Submitted By: glowpurple@gmail.com – Click to email about this post
I support the “Request to sign opinion posts” posting policy in North Coast BBQ. No need to hide if you are sharing informative material, constructive comments, and even complaints that are non-inflammatory.

Kit Keating

Conspiracy, Andy?

Submitted By: bryan.miller@outlook.com – Click to email about this post
Are you are using a new email address, Andy? It’s been a while since you last posted and I was starting to believe you had signed off for good.
We may need a few new posting categories on BBQ such as “conspiracy rant”, “let off steam”, “freedom of speech opinion”. I may not agree with you most of the time, but I support your right to free speech.

Sliding Glass Door

Submitted By: garys@nehalemtel.net – Click to email about this post
A few months ago there was someone on BBQ who was looking for a used sliding glass door for their greenhouse.
I forgot who you were, lost my sticky note with your contact info – hoping we can find each other through BBQ today.
Our new door will be going in around July 2 and the old door will be ready for you then.
Email me, or text, or call – 360-620-2685.
Thanks,
Gary

Science Is Real according to Andy

Submitted By: yuiqwe1@gmail.com – Click to email about this post
Is there a conspiracy theory you don’t subscribe to? Do you ever post any credible sources for your hysteria? Lastly hey, if you don’t like masks don’t wear one. Sometimes sick people wear masks to protect others, some have pollen allergies but go ahead and slam them from your position of superior authority, or find something more rewarding and productive to do.

Science Is Real

Submitted By: genedieken@yahoo.com – Click to email about this post
I haven’t quite been able to figure out why anti-vaxers and anti-maskers are often very pro-Russian, very hateful of our own country with all its flaws, and also despise people with different views of society, politics, and health.

As for masks, Andy, you have no idea why anyone chooses to wear a mask but insist on your right to pre-judge and condemn them. What or who makes you So, So Special? I’ve known some patriarchal dudes in my life, but… wow!

Gene Dieken

Summer Solstice Workshop: Illuminating Desire June 30th

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Summer Solstice Workshop: Illuminating Desire

Lara Foster our resident Author, Coach & Flow Specialist is attuned to generating individual and group flow experiences with aspects of fun, play and creativity. Her keen insight and intuitive advisement is woven into her coaching, writing and group facilitation wisdom.

Tenisha Stock is our Somatic Experiencing Practitioner & Embodiment Specialist. She deepened her expertise with intensive trauma and nervous system training to work with clients therapeutically promoting wholeness and regulation. Tenisha is also a curator of many community gatherings and events along the North Coast.

Together we’ll curate a safe, playful space full of joyful expressions for you to illuminate your desires flowing into this summer solstice season.

“What do I want? What do I really want?”

Underneath these words lays an invitation to deeper and fuller aspects of your whole being. Join us as we illuminate these desires together.

Lara and Tenisha will lead the group through breathwork, journaling and somatic practices that will help you get deeper in touch with the wholeness of your being’s desires.

When: Sunday June 30th 2024
Where: Les Shirley Park, Cannon Beach
Time: 11am to 2pm
Cost: $35

Sign up with Lara or Tenisha
lalaslifegarden.com/events/
www.somaticwholebeing.com/community-offerings

School Choice for Oregon

Submitted By: genedieken@yahoo.com – Click to email about this post
The School Choice movement (also widely known as school voucher or ESA programs) is a project devised and supported by members of the DeVos, Koch, and Walton families, and leaders of the Bradley Foundation among others, in an attempt to ultimately strangle public education.

I have followed an implementation by Gov. Kim Reynolds and the Iowa Legislature. The first wave hit the public schools by unpredictably lowering their funding immediately, thus making committed spending based on budgetary projections a challenge to meet. The Iowa diocesan schools didn’t allow Catholic parents to use the voucher payment to lower their tuition costs, they simply raised tuition instead. The legislature is now in disarray about how to pay for the financial peril created by their shiny new voucher program. It’s the same in several other Red states. www.bleedingheartland.com/2023/07/07/costs-soar-for-iowas-school-voucher-plan/

Oregonians should stay far away from this hobby project by far-right billionaires.

www.vox.com/politics/23689496/school-choice-education-savings-accounts-american-federation-children

www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/state-policymakers-should-reject-k-12-school-voucher-plans

time.com/6272666/school-voucher-programs-hurt-students/

www.brookings.edu/articles/research-on-school-vouchers-suggests-concerns-ahead-for-education-savings-accounts/

Gene Dieken

Response to paul@nehalemtel.net

Submitted By: jamesk3nn3r@aol.com – Click to email about this post
Your right, I did generalize, and I have probable cause in the form of a video, when you point a loaded gun at anyone in the state of oregon it is a crime.
I’d love to post the video here but the powers that be do not allow it, I am in support of veterans but they do not get the right to treat everyone like shit, stop enabling poor behavior
Good talk, with that said support your veterans ( do not enable)

Response to Support our veterans?

Submitted By: paul@nehalemtel.net – Click to email about this post
I don’t know where you got the idea that disabled veterans are immune from the law; read the link that you put at the end of your letter as proof.
It’s a fact that if the cops didn’t do anything it is not because of his veteran status.
I can only assume that it is because there was not enough probable cause.
Some veterans can have enough problems without generalizing statements like yours.

Reply to Get Vaccinated

Submitted By: bonniev2020@yahoo.com – Click to email about this post
Just want to make sure you have done all the REAL research about Vaccine Deaths and Injuries over the last 100 or so years before you really tell people to go get VACCINATED!
The VAERS REPORT Is a good place to start, keep in mind that only 1% actually gets reported to the CDC aka Vears report!

P. S
The Polio vaccine maimed and killed many people first! Prove me wrong please!!
Do YOU know how many?
Just my 2 cents for today!
Have a great day!

reply to Dixie & Gene

Submitted By: cbbcalm@gmail.com – Click to email about this post
Falun Gong has a place in my heart . Thank you Dixie for your accurate report . Having lived in San Francisco for the 80 and 90 when Healthfood stores and natural remedies were so very popular and encouraged.
Qi Gong , Medical Qigong , Acupuncture, all are in the same family as Falun Dafa-Gong. It is learning our bodies , breathing fully, tracing the meridians , SEING deeply that our bodies are NOT man made.
But governments Special interests, stocks, do not want this .
Remember Peter Finch in the NETWORK movie .
This is so relevant today .
So Epoch Times is standing up for freedom to choose . It observe and sees the puppets

Falun Gong & The Epoch Times

Submitted By: genedieken@yahoo.com – Click to email about this post
Seeing the recent post by Dixie G. reminded me of the New York Times deep-dive on the movement and the media organization from 2020. This link should open the paywall: www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html?ugrp=m&unlocked_article_code=1.fU0.jyfK.mmXUC3f1TN5u&smid=url-share

China suppresses Falun Gong as well as people in Hong Kong who value democracy because of their beliefs. It suppresses Tibetans and Uighurs because of their culture and the territory they occupy.

Here’s the TLDR of the NY Times article:

“Today, The Epoch Times and its affiliates are a force in right-wing media, with tens of millions of social media followers spread across dozens of pages and an online audience that rivals those of The Daily Caller and Breitbart News, and with a similar willingness to feed the online fever swamps of the far right.”

A 2018 gathering in Taiwan for practitioners of Falun Gong, which backs The Epoch Times:

Falun Gong & The Epoch Times

Submitted By: genedieken@yahoo.com – Click to email about this post
Seeing the recent post by Dixie G. reminded me of the New York Times deep-dive on the movement and the media organization from 2020. This link should open the paywall: www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html?ugrp=m&unlocked_article_code=1.fU0.jyfK.mmXUC3f1TN5u&smid=url-share
China suppresses Falun Gong as well as people in Hong Kong who value democracy because of their beliefs. It suppresses Tibetans and Uighurs because of their culture and the territory they occupy.
Here’s the TLDR of the NY Times article:
“Today, The Epoch Times and its affiliates are a force in right-wing media, with tens of millions of social media followers spread across dozens of pages and an online audience that rivals those of The Daily Caller and Breitbart News, and with a similar willingness to feed the online fever swamps of the far right.”
A 2018 gathering in Taiwan for practitioners of Falun Gong, which backs The Epoch Times:

Falun Gong & The Epoch Times

Submitted By: genedieken@yahoo.com – Click to email about this post
Seeing the recent post by Dixie G. reminded me of the New York Times deep-dive on the movement and the media organization from 2020. This link should open the paywall: www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html?ugrp=m&unlocked_article_code=1.fU0.jyfK.mmXUC3f1TN5u&smid=url-share
China suppresses Falun Gong as well as people in Hong Kong who value democracy because of their beliefs. It suppresses Tibetans and Uighurs because of their culture and the territory they occupy.
Here’s the TLDR of the NY Times article:
“Today, The Epoch Times and its affiliates are a force in right-wing media, with tens of millions of social media followers spread across dozens of pages and an online audience that rivals those of The Daily Caller and Breitbart News, and with a similar willingness to feed the online fever swamps of the far right.”
A 2018 gathering in Taiwan for practitioners of Falun Gong, which backs The Epoch Times:

Shutting Down Small Farms in Oregon

Submitted By: genedieken@yahoo.com – Click to email about this post
First off, I’m very much in favor of small farm and animal operations producing high-quality food and thriving. The recent story (1) featured by OPB Radio about a small producer caught up short by existing water rights laws on the books for more than a century is sad and I hope there’s some compromise available.

Generally, water rights are vastly complicated and probably do need periodic refurbishment.

Here’s what scares me about this issue: Once you’ve gone beyond a certain point of being unmindful about water use and abuse, it’s too late and there’s no going back.

I grew up in Iowa, consistently the number one or two ag producer in the U.S. Over the last 50 years the industrialization of farming, repeated boom-bust cycles, mind-boggling federal subsidies, vast use of chemicals, huge build-out of CAFOs (2), and right-wing governance have created a disaster that’s hard to comprehend. Flanked by the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers, Iowa has a vast network of creeks and rivers. All but a few dozen miles are now poisoned with nitrates (as is much groundwater) and the state has the second-highest cancer rate in the country.

“Well, that’s the Midwest!” you say. We’re luckier or maybe just late to the game. The nitrate problems in Umatilla & Morrow Counties (3) are quite similar to Iowa.

(1) www.opb.org/article/2024/03/13/oregon-enforces-water-rights-small-farmers-feel-consequences/
(2) CAFO = Concentrated animal feeding operation
(3) www.opb.org/article/2022/05/05/groundwater-pollution-eastern-oregon-counties-drinking-water-at-risk-farming-wells/
(3)https://www.opb.org/article/2024/01/24/water-pollution-nitrate-eastern-oregon-environment-well-groundwater-umatilla-morrow-/

Here’s a fine book about Iowa’s problems:
The Swine Republic: Struggles with the Truth about Agriculture and Water: icecubepress.com/2023/04/10/the-swine-republic-2/

Reply to

Submitted By: babbles@nehalemtel.net – Click to email about this post
once again i find myself strongly agreeing with mark kuestner’s bbq post.

i agree with his assessment of those who serve the city of manzanita, whether they be volunteers (city council) or paid staff that do the nuts and bolts of work that keeps the city running.

i agree that it’s a great idea to “go straight to the horse’s mouth,” as old timers like to say, if you want to know more about what’s going on. that expression means you are getting information from the person who has direct personal knowledge of it.

and i do know that mark kuestner does NOT sit on manzanita’s city council!

i have copied and pasted his post here below, to be clear in your minds that which i am addressing.

i live in nehalem, and am an interested observer, sometimes participant, in changes and happenings in north tillamook county.

om peace namaste

lucy brook

Neighbors helping Neighbors
Posted on March 13, 2024 by North Coast BBQ

Submitted By: mkuestner10@gmail.com
Our Neighbors.
Manzanita has a hard-working bunch of talented volunteers looking after our interests in city government and getting lots of important work done every week.
Tom Campbell was just newly appointed to City Council, Brad Hart as well a few months ago. We got a great new Mayor when Kathryn Stock stepped up to the plate and agreed to serve. Linda Kozlowski has been a true stalwart on council for many years, and 2024 marks the fourth year in Jerry Spegman’s first term on City Council: a good mix of the old and the new.
The Council has been ably supported for years now by city staff, led by City Manager, Leila Aman. Other city staff keeping the lights on in Manzanita: Dan Weitzel, Scott Gebhart, Nancy Jones, Nina Crist, Police Chief Erik Harth and Sergeant Mike Sims among others.
They and their families make up a large part of our community.
City Council recently created a single email address we can use to contact all five of them in one fell swoop: citycouncil@ci.manzanita.or.us
Next time an issue comes up that you’re curious about, a procedure that you think needs some tweaking, let them know your thoughts,
Mark Kuestner

Townsend Mobile Car Detailing Service

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Another fairy tale – The Tale of City Hallenstein

Submitted By: genedieken@yahoo.com – Click to email about this post
The Tale of City Hallenstein is certainly a traditional European-style tale used to warn children not to engage in certain behavior lest they be molested by a monster.

If I were a real estate agent selling property north or south of Manzanita, I’d hand potential buyers a copy of the Tale of City Hallenstein and ask them if they seriously want to drop their three-quarter million to live in such a place. Here Be Dragons!

Using a faux fairy tale as a tool to say hurtful things; make statements but provide no facts; call names; step away from my own professional ethics; and just generally grind axes already ground down to the handle, seems not the most helpful, courageous or adult way to proceed.

Gene Dieken